VP Alternate Access issue(s)?

[Osiris]

by hailing Emperor Ganak, he should straighten everything out. If a char has finished the VP key quest previously (and still has the key) Ganak will fix it all up.

[Osiris]

Apr 24, 2018 2:24:47 GMT -8 Ash said:

On my second account, the character Nock (Druid) has completed the VP key quest and added it to keyring...

Has hailed Emperor Ganak and received the rez staff and the gold coin.

Gave gold coin to the only other toon on this account, which is Styx (my Necro), via the shared Bank slot.

Styx could not get teleported near/into VP via JoanJett with the Gold Coin in his inventory; ran to VP via Overthere...

the VP key has nothing to do with the JJ quest. Getting the VP key/Aged Coin doesnt open JJ to port that player anywhere.

Apr 24, 2018 2:24:47 GMT -8 Ash said:

Was disallowed to zone into VP (behind Dra Sipara) error message = 'this is locked an you do not have the key'

Talked to Bloodfield with the GOld Coin in inventory, said 'How dare you speak to me without the Veeshan's Peak key or Gold Coin in your bags' (blah blah blah)

Again tried getting into VP, then hailed Bloodfield again; exasperated, handed BLoodfield the GoldCoin; which he simply ate...

rofl - I have no idea what happen, ALL testing Bloodpool gave back the coin - every scenario, everytime. You must give the coin to Bloodpool in order for the 6 hour window for VP to open. Having the coin in your inventory and hailing an NPC will do nothing at all. The coin must be given to bloodpool, then a 6 hour quest flag is then assigned to the character that gave the coin to Bloodpool. Bloodpool should accept the coin even frpm players with the VP key, and has killed PD or not. the ONLY time Bloodpool should give the coin back is if the player is under 55. But again, he should give it back, and not eat it. Not one time did BP eat the coin in testing.

Apr 24, 2018 2:24:47 GMT -8 Ash said:

A tad frustrating; I'll probably just key-up all my characters via the main questline.

by all means do so, but keep in mind I put in time specially for a request you had. if you want to just completely bypass it, thats is fine. But I may not be so quick to make a change you ask for next time.


I might be able to get on tonight after work and see what happened, I can't imagine why it failed for you.

[Osiris]

ok - here is what I did.

Locked server
backed up db
checked config of some of your toons accounts (Nock, Styx, Ehko).
moved styx to a GM account
logged as styx
moved styx to Skyfire at Bloodpool loc
verified styx had no VP key, No Aged Gold Coin, no quest flags pertaining to alt VP access. (other words a toon with NO key to VP)
hailed BP and got the proper response:





(you get this response from BP when you are NOT flagged for VP - plain and simple). Bloodpool's text gives a clue as to this:
BP text from above screnshot:
"No Key?" -- (no 'VP Key' reference - no actual check happens, quest flags dictate that if you land in this part of the script, you do not have the key)
"no Aged Gold Coin of Envy?" -- (you may have a coin in inventory, but you have not gave him the key yet. OR you gave him a key AND it has been longer than 6 hours AND you didnt kill PD)
"AND you don't know anyone that's measured their worth against the mighty Phara Dar?" -- (this is reference that no other character on this current account has killed PD - because the quest flags dictate it.)

I then summoned An Aged Gold Coin of Envy, and handed to Bloodpool...........or I thought I did!!!!!! (more on this later)

After summoning the Gold coin and handing it to Bloodpool, I got the following proper (expected) response:




If you get the response above ^ this means your 6hour window has started. As stated in the text, your access-way to get into VP is to hail Bloodpool, "Hail me once again when you are ready to enter."

(remember this 'unkeyed' char cannot use the front door to VP, hailing BP is the only way in for the 'unkeyed-char-that-has-given-BP-a-Gold-Coin'.)


If you hail Bloodpool as he tells the client to in his previous text, you'll see:




and....you are then ported into VP.


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I then summoned An Aged Gold Coin of Envy, and handed to Bloodpool...........or I thought I did!!!!!! (more on this later)

-ok, at first when I handed the coin to Bloodpool, he didnt react at all.....nothing and ate the coin. (i had messed around with Styx' nifty Circlet of Envious Shadow and had invis'd myself. I thought that was the problem....)
-took off invis, summoned anorther coin, gave to Bloodpool again.......NOTHING again. (then I thought, did I hand the coin to my pet? (Xibobn))
-thinking there was no way I handed it to my pet, I summoned ANOTHER coin. Then verified that the pet was nowhere near Bloodpool when I handed it to him.
-BOOM!


My guess is, you probably gave it to your pet - exactly like I did. 

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I'm going to restore the db
reboot server
summon another coin in Styx inventory. (on his cursor)


However in looking at your config earlier...Nock and Styx are on the same account.

Why not kill PD with Nock? (that will then give ALL toons on Nock's account access to VP - including Styx.)


you can then give that Gold coin (in Styx' inventory) to a toon on ANOTHER account (preferably an account that has NO other toon with a VP key). It's possible that not one characater on an ACCOUNT has to finish the VP Key quest, as long as one of those toons was given a gold coin, and then went on the kill PD with 6 hours (then all toons on that account would have VP access without any of them completeing the the VP Key quest.)

[Osiris]

also....if grouped in VP and Phara Dar is killed, ALL group members get credit for the PD Kill and each of those respective accounts (and EVERY toon on those respective accounts) ALL get access to VP.


important to know:
Unless a toon has a the actual VP Key, the ONLY way into VP is thru Bloodpool's Alt VP Access. This also goes for toons in the example in the previous sentence. If a toon get access to VP because another player on that account killed PD, they will have to Hail Bloodpool to get into VP (Bloodpool will respond accordingly).



Famous last words: the scripts I wrote for this Alt VP Access are pretty much frogs-ass water-tight.

[Osiris]

(moved to another area)

envyoftheirisheqemu.proboards.com/thread/405/2018-veeshan-peaks-alt-access?page=1&scrollTo=1497

[Osiris]

Apr 25, 2018 15:02:18 GMT -8 Ash said:

One addendum

My Bard has killed Phara Dar a couple of times, using his status as 'ally' to reach her chamber, while my other characters remain 'dubious'

There is/was no message about being flagged upon successful PD kill, right? Neither to the slaying toon, nor to group members?

Correct, there is no message displayed to the client (it appears just like a regular PD kill). However, once PD is killed, every member of the group should get a 'account access' flag for VP. (I can add a client message for confirmation)

from looking at the config - the following list of your toons all have access to VP right now (thru Bloodpool and as long as they are 55 or over):

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its possible that some of these toons also have the VP key (i didnt check for that) however that list of toons all have access to VP right now, at least from the 'account access' flag.

Apr 25, 2018 15:02:18 GMT -8 Ash said:

Did they have to be in a raid group, or simply a group-group?

Group - when PD is killed I use a 'GetGroup' function that gets all group members. I then use a 'foreach loop' to flag all members in the group (entity list). I figured there is not going to be more than 1 group killing PD, so there is no coding for a raid.

I'm guessing, if a raid were to kill PD, whoever got the kill-shot would get the credit for the kill (and everyone else in that group). But if the raid had multiple groups, only the group where the kill-shot happened is going to get the flag. (again the likelihood of a raid force in VP is very unlikely, so i did not bother coding any support for a raid.)